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Body Shaming: Should Offenders Face Charges?  

myelin36 53F
4615 posts
8/27/2016 7:11 am
Body Shaming: Should Offenders Face Charges?

Last month, Playboy model Dani Mathers secretly took a picture of a naked woman from an LA Fitness locker room. She then posted it to her Snapchat with a highly inappropriate body-shaming comment: "If I can't unsee this, you can't either".

Like most gyms, LA Fitness prohibits the use of cell phones and photography in their locker rooms, so it's no surprise that the Snapchat got Ms. Mathers banned from all LA Fitness gyms. A statement from the company to the L.A. Times calls her behavior "appalling...[it] puts every member at risk of losing their privacy."

Her behavior is appalling & puts members @ risk. We ended membership & she can't use any club. It’s not just our rule, it's common decency.— LA Fitness (@LAFitness) July 15, 2016.

She also lost her job at a local radio station over the incident, and a petition on Change.org has received over 25,000 signatures asking the LAPD to take legal action against Mathers—and on a strong basis. The petition draws attention to a U.S. Code that calls for a fine or arrest of an individual who "has the intent to capture an image of a private area of an individual without their consent, and knowingly does so under circumstances in which the individual has a reasonable expectation of privacy."

It's clear that Mathers' actions were extremely distasteful, but they're also illegal. In an attempt to soothe the situation, Ms. Mathers took to Snapchat to issue a public apology and own up to her mistake. "That was absolutely wrong and not what I meant to do...I know that body-shaming is wrong. That's not the type of person I am." In the video series, she insisted that she meant to send the photo to a friend and only posted it publicly as an honest mistake—but the public has questioned her sincerity.

Though the identity of the victimized woman is still unknown, it's needless to say that Mathers violated her privacy and broke the law doing so. Regardless of her intent, body-shaming—whether it's done privately, between friends, or on social media—supports oppressive attitudes that punish women for their appearance. And that's never okay.

What are your thoughts on this? What would you do if you were the "unnamed person" in the photograph Ms. Mathers captured and posted to her social media account?


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veryfunnycple64 60M/60F
21770 posts
8/27/2016 7:27 am

yes....body shaming is wrong....our culture has tolerated it way too long!

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funsnellvillecpl 66M/54F  
3901 posts
8/27/2016 7:44 am

she needs to be prosecuted , our thoughts


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8/27/2016 7:50 am

These are Cyber Cowards...The world is full of them... Just like some on this site!


pagancountrygirl 66F  
6466 posts
8/27/2016 7:52 am

A public apology? I don't think that would even come close to showing any type of remorse for a premeditated act of shaming another person. Even if posting to a public forum was accidental, the act of taking the woman's picture in an area that was off limits to cameras and was presumed to be private should be sufficient to subject her to legal action.

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hrdallnght4u 67M

8/27/2016 8:12 am

That is just down right wrong...

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James383_383 47M  
60 posts
8/27/2016 8:48 am

Tough to say until you are the person being shamed but I think the offender was probably punished enough if the person's identity in the picture was not compromised.


LiveLifeDoU 69F  
2199 posts
8/27/2016 9:00 am

i agree with magnum as well. She did apologize though she also tried to make less of her gross error in judgment...and she lost her job and reputation so she has paid for her mistake. The people who complained when they saw the pictures in the first place did the right thing and put the problem upfront where it needed to be.
Now it's time to move on, imo...while keeping an eye out for others who make similar gross errors in judgment.


NaughtyInSO 113F
9755 posts
8/27/2016 9:23 am

Body shaming is wrong and deserves a harsh punishment.

But what about the fact that she took a picture of a woman's body without that woman's consent? I think, this is even worse! She violated someone else's privacy and that, too, deserves punishment.

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ironman2769 58M  
12877 posts
8/27/2016 10:30 am

It wasn't right to violate this woman's privacy or anyone else's in the gym and for what reason?

i have been a member of a gym for over years and never had any inclination to pictures of anyone....except perhaps a selfie......

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hoss2829 69M
109 posts
8/27/2016 10:50 am

it would all depend on how they were doing it 3876739


tickles4us 62M
7262 posts
8/27/2016 10:50 am

Same old damage control crap, I did it BUT I didn't mean to post it to the internet with my snide comments. I suppose her camera accidentally took the picture in the forbidden zone while she was just getting dressed herself. The shear fact that she took the picture makes it blatantly clear what kind of person she is. To claim that it was an accident that it got posted publicly is an obvious lie and only adds insult to the original crime.

But lets just put the shoe on the other foot for a minute, even though it would likely be better placed well into her mouth. Just suppose someone had done something to damage her publicly is some shameful way. Do you think her lawyer wouldn't be suing that person? Do you think she would be satisfied that they lost their job and where banned from the place where it happened?

I think it wouldn't be difficult to determine who the photo was of given the limited number of people there and the image captured. I believe Mathers should be hit with a large fine so that she will remember the mistake. I hope the individual in the picture comes forward and sues her and gets a nice some of money. I have no sympathy for her that she lost her job for her error, that is always a risk for anyone in a position such as hers and it does nothing to compensate the individual she has abused.

It's one thing to take pictures of someone dressed and in public and post it on the internet somehow with rude comments but it is an entirely different level of wrong and legal issue to do what she did. It would be better if people were better than to do that kind of thing in any way but it shows you what kind of person you are dealing when they do.

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johnnyjjbar 57M
112 posts
8/27/2016 10:54 am

She should be prosecuted. It's not a public place like the beach, or even Walmart. It was a locker room where the victim had a reasonable expectation of privacy. She only lost her job because of her high profile.

Someone with a less public profile, would likely not have suffered the same consequences, but they would have been just as wrong. They need to make an example out of her as a deterrent for the next idiot with a camera....


Tmptrzz 61F  
107039 posts
8/27/2016 11:48 am

I saw this on TMZ..and I have to say YES she should be punished for this, but the question is what kind of punishment should she get. I am thinking community service of some kind..

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BrownEyedBBW 55F  
8831 posts
8/27/2016 12:36 pm

What Dani Mathers did was obviously wrong and illegal and she should be punished. Period. No one can argue that a shower in a gym is a place where a person can expect privacy.

OK, I"m fat woman who wears bathing suits and generally doesn't give a fuck (unless I'm having a bad hair day.No one likes to be seen having a bad hair day.) I think that the idea of "punishing the fat shamers" is a bit murkier than many of us would like to admit. I suspect the for some in society this is an issue if (a) the person n being shamed is someone like them or (b)the person doing the shaming is a category of person they don't particularly like. It doesn't make body shaming right, or kind or good, but it can make some otherwise very nice people into hypocrites.

I just mentioned this on a couple of blogs her over the past couple of weeks.

One of the most popular websites is People of Walmart which consists of pictures of Walmart shoppers, taken without their knowledge or consent, that are posted with snide commentary and that are open to comments from the public. And there are many more like it out there. (And I bet half of you who say you don't know this site are liars). I've seen people post memes on this very site that amount to body shaming in the name of a having a chuckle.

Did you ever watch the news when they run a story on obesity? They always have the b-roll of fat people waddling down the street with ice cream or some other "bad" food in their hands. Even if faces aren't shown, I'm sure if it's your body or that of someone you love you can tell. In fact, there have been people who complained about it and the courts have said that if you are walking down a street or in a park you have no expectation of privacy; your image is fair game.

Body shaming is rooted in social norms. As a society (and this is not new) it's okay to make fun of people who aren't like us.

So what to do? Damned if I know.

Is this something that we just have to live with as a society? At least we're aware of it and acknowledge it which is something that didn't happen even a generation ago. Who and what gets shamed today will change as style changes. Today's shamed is tomorrow's ideal.

Do acknowledge your own hypocrisy and call out others and yourself when necessary? That's what I do and it can lead to some damned uncomfortable moments when what I say doesn't quite match what I profess.

Do you throw it back on the person being shamed? One can argue that part of being ashamed is allowing yourself to feel shame. If you don't feel you have anything to be ashamed about, you become outraged instead.

As I said, I don't have an answer, let alone *the* answer, but I know it's a much more complicated proposal because whenever I read about body shaming, everyone get's so incensed about the tree, that they can't see the forest its sitting in and you've got to chop down the forest in order for that tree to be out of place.

Interesting topic.


positively4you 74F  
4605 posts
8/27/2016 3:35 pm

If I were the victim, I would be in touch with the law and an attorney. People need to be accountable. The lady was out of shape. She was in a gym trying to work on it. Yet that little bitch decided to publicly shame her instead of seeing someone trying to better herself. I would be her worst nightmare.


kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
8/27/2016 5:20 pm

If it were me, or my wife? I'd be angry and I'd file charges. And I wouldn't get over being angry quickly. This is an act I can see a cruel child committing, not a alleged adult.

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ULIXBIG 69M
9288 posts
8/27/2016 5:21 pm

Playboy model or not, there should be one law and one treatment for all.

The damage to her reputation will be soon forgotten and the lost job is only a temporary "set-back". I have seen people in similar circumstances recover very quickly.


Not_here2meet 55F
3843 posts
8/28/2016 7:01 am

I'm with the rest of the crowd, it was wrong. Just like that People of Walmart thing is wrong.

Do I think people should be punished? Yes, I actually do. I think there should be legal recourses for the victims of bullying, generally speaking. Do I think she should be continually punished now that she's apologized? No, but I would not trust her not to do it again.

I probably would have contacted the gym and Snapchat, I have a tendency to jump when it comes to such things. I don't enjoy the way this nation and others use shame to control it's citizen. Of course, I also don't know how to fix it.

These are complex problems that I think would be better solved if we all worked together rather than devolve into name calling and body shaming, as we currently do.

(I believe, as BrowneyedBBW noted, that this is a complex issue that is ingrained into our society.)

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myelin36 53F
3612 posts
8/28/2016 8:03 am

    Quoting Not_here2meet:
    I'm with the rest of the crowd, it was wrong. Just like that People of Walmart thing is wrong.

    Do I think people should be punished? Yes, I actually do. I think there should be legal recourses for the victims of bullying, generally speaking. Do I think she should be continually punished now that she's apologized? No, but I would not trust her not to do it again.

    I probably would have contacted the gym and Snapchat, I have a tendency to jump when it comes to such things. I don't enjoy the way this nation and others use shame to control it's citizen. Of course, I also don't know how to fix it.

    These are complex problems that I think would be better solved if we all worked together rather than devolve into name calling and body shaming, as we currently do.

    (I believe, as BrowneyedBBW noted, that this is a complex issue that is ingrained into our society.)
I'm with everyone else. This woman had a reasonable expectation of privacy in the locker room of her gym. I would be all over filing a lawsuit.

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wickedeasy 74F
32404 posts
8/28/2016 9:09 am

lawsuit

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gunner4440 49M
2657 posts
8/28/2016 9:14 pm

I rarely comment, but This makes my blood boil. To be so superficial is just amazing, I happen to be part of those "You cant unsee". I have over 100 stitches worth of scars above my lower lip. I also can discuss literature with most people, cook a fine meal and defend an opinion, I've been a son, a soldier, a boyfriend, a husband a lover and a student in my time. This person violated the law and did it intentionally. Enough said. For all of us that aren't part of the "Pretty people" we'll keep on keeping on.
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ProfPlayful 53M
3861 posts
8/29/2016 4:22 am

Thank you for writing this, Myelin.

Social media has given cruel people the power to put private challenges in public view. This is terrifying.

There is an appropriate place for discussing this woman's body composition. That place is the office of a physician who is trying to help her. Sadly, the public internet is becoming a place for hurting, not helping.

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porterpiper1 57F
3755 posts
8/30/2016 12:30 am

This is what we allow, If you are not one of the so call beautiful people they can make fun of you, all women have to have a certain body type, mostly slim to be call perfect, anything else isn't perfect, Yes they should punish her, I hope the lady sue her for everything she got, no she isn't sorry, she is just sorry she got caught and lost her gig, she will go to do some soft porn and other things,


dan_nl_2006 42M
1117 posts
8/31/2016 9:29 pm

I think I agree what she did was wrong. There should be consequences. I also think since it was an honest crime (meaning she is not a creepy guy recording and selling), may she can be excused with an apology and fine (no jail time).

I strict on crimes but still somewhat compassionate.


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9/16/2016 2:26 pm

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