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Who else? A question I ask myself frequently when on this site is … Do others on here think desperation is more than a little pathetic?. Admittedly so,I see it more often in the men on here. Constantly asking friend requests and stroking peoples egos. Realistically how is it even remotely possible to meet someone who's 2500 klms away? Or,hey I'll be in your area in a month?,wanna hook up LOL. Sure! I'll jump right on that immediately!!!. Also when posting on here words go MIA. Happy Friday Peace Cheers. |
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2/7/2020 10:07 am |
I seriously can't be the only one to think this?,can I ???
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I constantly get " Flirts" ,views and "Hot Listing " from 20-30 yr from hundreds o miles away ????
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I wonder in a similar way, every time I get an email …. Is he desperate or hoping I am? Opportunity may knock only once, but temptation bangs on the door forever!
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I agree with you, and some of the men on here make us look bad as a whole. Feel free to message my private mailbox
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I wonder in a similar way, every time I get an email …. Is he desperate or hoping I am? Feel free to message my private mailbox
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Do others on here think desperation is more than a little pathetic?. ....Well the definition of "Desperation" is a state of despair, typically one which results in rash or extreme behavior. And the definition of "Pathetic" states: arousing pity, especially through vulnerability or sadness. Admittedly so,I see it more often in the men on here. ... You do? You recognize them trying to get some action, on clearly a site to find action, as desperate? I don't. asking friend requests .... That's not pathetic, not desperate. The site provides this to be used. Nothing about that is saying , if you send a friend request, you're desperate and pathetic. and stroking peoples egos. .... How so? Like if a rolypoly [aka fat] woman says this is curvy, and guys agree with that? Yes, that's desperate and pathetic. ... Or like complimenting someone on their looks.... "You're so hot"... yes, that is desperate and pathetic. Realistically how is it even remotely possible to meet someone who's 2500 klms away?......It's possible, but it's not reasonable. Reaching out to someone, that far away, to be on someones friends list , is not "Pathetic"... I'd say , "Weird". Or,hey I'll be in your area in a month?,wanna hook up ... .That is not pathetic nor desperate, either. Mind you , this is a hookup site. You invite someone, you found on here, to do that, you're really inviting them to a meeting. That's a "Duh" situation. Whether anything would happen from that meeting is unknown. And really, it's reasonable. Both have profiles on a hookup site, so that means they both understand that they could be invited to hookup for a one night stand. All you have to say, is , "Yes" or "No", or nothing at all. LOL. Sure! I'll jump right on that immediately!!!. .... Why not? You're showing off your penis. You are saying you're open for whatever..... Surely you should understand that kind of invitation is not "Pathetic", but very "Reasonable".
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2/7/2020 12:55 pm |
Heathen_G, I disagree with your comment. "Admittedly so,I see it more often in the men on here. ... You do? You recognize them trying to get some action, on clearly a site to find action, as desperate? I don't." That's where you're wrong. It's not clearly ONLY a site to find action. This site is a place for all kinds of activity, both designed for in-person meets, as well as online only things. The only thing that's "clear" about that is what the very corporate page of this site describes itself. Let's be honest here, 700+ million people on this and the Friend Finder network are not all here solely to "find action". In fact, what I have found is that the vast majority of real and legitimate females on here are only on the site without intent to meet. For the ones who are, most are completely flaky and could care less to follow through with anything with this 'back burner' level of priority. The guys are trying to find action on a site that's designed for multiple purposes (which most don't understand that fact to begin with) and then they get desperate when it sinks in eventually that next to no real women exist on here (for good reason), almost none care or bother to chat with men (for good reason) and next to none have any desire whatsoever to meet men at all, especially for sex (for good reason). Guys have the wrong mentality of what this site is to begin with, which is 90% of the problem from the start. It's not solely a 'sex site'....the site is designed for a wide range of different people who all seek a wide range of different things for both online and/or offline purposes. I think if men would first comprehend that simple fact alone, then this site would be in much better shape to begin with.
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2/7/2020 1:01 pm |
Koffla, nicely put! "We all get them! They are planted by the site to entice men to continue spending their money" Absolutely true! This site is nothing more than a profit generating machine. Nothing more! It's headed by those behind the curtains to create an illusion of abundance in women around here via bogus profiles, false notifications and sexually tempting marketing techniques for the pure sake of men buying into the games and gimmicks to shell over their wallets month after month in a corrupt game of illusion and lies to get filthy rich off of, knowing damn well that likely 1% or less of it's population here aren't finding any level of success at all.
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2/7/2020 1:03 pm |
Definitely! wasn't hard to figure out 
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2/7/2020 1:16 pm |
Heathen_G, I disagree with your comment. "Admittedly so,I see it more often in the men on here. ... You do? You recognize them trying to get some action, on clearly a site to find action, as desperate? I don't." That's where you're wrong. It's not clearly ONLY a site to find 'action' or a "hookup site". This site is a place for all kinds of activity, both designed for in-person meets, as well as online only things. The only thing that's "clear" about that is what the very corporate page of this site describes itself. Let's be honest here, 700+ million people on this and the Friend Finder network are not all here solely to "find action". In fact, what I have found is that the vast majority of real and legitimate females on here are only on the site without intent to meet. For the ones who are, most are completely flaky and could care less to follow through with anything with this 'back burner' level of priority. The guys are trying to find action on a site that's designed for multiple purposes (which most don't understand that fact to begin with) and then they get desperate when it sinks in eventually that next to no real women exist on here (for good reason), almost none care or bother to chat with men (for good reason) and next to none have any desire whatsoever to meet men at all, especially for sex (for good reason). Guys have the wrong mentality of what this site is to begin with, which is 90% of the problem from the start. It's not solely a 'sex site'....the site is designed for a wide range of different people who all seek a wide range of different things for both online and/or offline purposes. I think if men would first comprehend that simple fact alone, then this site would be in much better shape to begin with. "LOL. Sure! I'll jump right on that immediately!!!. .... Why not? You're showing off your penis. You are saying you're open for whatever..... Surely you should understand that kind of invitation is not "Pathetic", but very "Reasonable"." Just stop already and read the corporate page. There will will find the clear description of "social media and social networking". A photo of someone's "junk" or anything at all is considered media. A pic of someone's junk isn't an invite to anything. It's merely a pic of someone's junk and that's all. We have a profile description for a purpose and by design, and THAT is what explains why we're all here and for what we all seek. A pic is just media. Nothing more! You don't look at a pic of a pyramid in Egypt and assume it's telling you that you should climb it. You don't look at a picture of a pizza and expect a knock at your door from the pizza delivery man. Yet this is the sort of logic you're going off of. A pic is merely an extension of one's profile for the purpose of advertising physical looks and attributes. It's not inviting you to anything. It's merely showing any reader here what someone looks like (or their junk) so that you can either like what you see or pass them by if you're not interested in merely looks. Kind of like looking through paint swatch samples. No sample is inviting itself to be a color on your wall. It's merely advertising itself in case you take an interest in that specific color. "Or,hey I'll be in your area in a month?,wanna hook up ... .That is not pathetic nor desperate, either. Mind you , this is a hookup site." Again, not true. This site CAN be a hookup site, but it's NOT solely a hookup site. This is precisely where all of the confusion always stems from when almost all men on here think the site is designed for one and only one purpose for sex ONLY. It's not at all!
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2/7/2020 1:23 pm |
Heathen_G, I disagree with your comment. "Admittedly so,I see it more often in the men on here. ... You do? You recognize them trying to get some action, on clearly a site to find action, as desperate? I don't." That's where you're wrong. It's not clearly ONLY a site to find 'action' or a "hookup site". This site is a place for all kinds of activity, both designed for in-person meets, as well as online only things. The only thing that's "clear" about that is what the very corporate page of this site describes itself. Let's be honest here, 700+ million people on this and the Friend Finder network are not all here solely to "find action". In fact, what I have found is that the vast majority of real and legitimate females on here are only on the site without intent to meet. For the ones who are, most are completely flaky and could care less to follow through with anything with this 'back burner' level of priority. The guys are trying to find action on a site that's designed for multiple purposes (which most don't understand that fact to begin with) and then they get desperate when it sinks in eventually that next to no real women exist on here (for good reason), almost none care or bother to chat with men (for good reason) and next to none have any desire whatsoever to meet men at all, especially for sex (for good reason). Guys have the wrong mentality of what this site is to begin with, which is 90% of the problem from the start. It's not solely a 'sex site'....the site is designed for a wide range of different people who all seek a wide range of different things for both online and/or offline purposes. I think if men would first comprehend that simple fact alone, then this site would be in much better shape to begin with. "LOL. Sure! I'll jump right on that immediately!!!. .... Why not? You're showing off your penis. You are saying you're open for whatever..... Surely you should understand that kind of invitation is not "Pathetic", but very "Reasonable"." Just stop already and read the corporate page. There will will find the clear description of "social media and social networking". A photo of someone's "junk" or anything at all is considered media. A pic of someone's penis isn't an invite to anything. It's merely a pic of someone's junk and that's all. We have a profile description for a purpose and by design to be READ and filled out, and THAT is what explains why we're all here and for what we all seek. A pic is just media. Nothing more! You don't look at a pic of a pyramid in Egypt and assume it's telling you that you should climb it. You don't look at a picture of a pizza and expect a knock at your door from the pizza delivery man. Yet this is the sort of logic you're going off of. A pic is merely an extension of one's profile for the purpose of advertising physical looks and attributes. It's not inviting you to anything. It's merely showing any reader here what someone looks like (or their junk) so that you can either like what you see or pass them by if you're not interested in merely looks. Kind of like looking through paint swatch samples. No sample is inviting itself to be a color on your wall. It's merely advertising itself in case you take an interest in that specific color. "Or,hey I'll be in your area in a month?,wanna hook up ... .That is not pathetic nor desperate, either. Mind you , this is a hookup site." Again, not true. This site CAN be a hookup site, but it's NOT solely a hookup site. This is precisely where all of the confusion always stems from when almost all men on here think the site is designed for one and only one purpose for sex ONLY. It's not at all! This very blog is positive and absolute proof of that.
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Heathen_G, I disagree with your comment. "Admittedly so,I see it more often in the men on here. ... You do? You recognize them trying to get some action, on clearly a site to find action, as desperate? I don't." That's where you're wrong. It's not clearly ONLY a site to find 'action' or a "hookup site". This site is a place for all kinds of activity, both designed for in-person meets, as well as online only things. The only thing that's "clear" about that is what the very corporate page of this site describes itself. Let's be honest here, 700+ million people on this and the Friend Finder network are not all here solely to "find action". In fact, what I have found is that the vast majority of real and legitimate females on here are only on the site without intent to meet. For the ones who are, most are completely flaky and could care less to follow through with anything with this 'back burner' level of priority. The guys are trying to find action on a site that's designed for multiple purposes (which most don't understand that fact to begin with) and then they get desperate when it sinks in eventually that next to no real women exist on here (for good reason), almost none care or bother to chat with men (for good reason) and next to none have any desire whatsoever to meet men at all, especially for sex (for good reason). Guys have the wrong mentality of what this site is to begin with, which is 90% of the problem from the start. It's not solely a 'sex site'....the site is designed for a wide range of different people who all seek a wide range of different things for both online and/or offline purposes. I think if men would first comprehend that simple fact alone, then this site would be in much better shape to begin with. "LOL. Sure! I'll jump right on that immediately!!!. .... Why not? You're showing off your penis. You are saying you're open for whatever..... Surely you should understand that kind of invitation is not "Pathetic", but very "Reasonable"." Just stop already and read the corporate page. There will will find the clear description of "social media and social networking". A photo of someone's "junk" or anything at all is considered media. A pic of someone's penis isn't an invite to anything. It's merely a pic of someone's junk and that's all. We have a profile description for a purpose and by design to be READ and filled out, and THAT is what explains why we're all here and for what we all seek. A pic is just media. Nothing more! You don't look at a pic of a pyramid in Egypt and assume it's telling you that you should climb it. You don't look at a picture of a pizza and expect a knock at your door from the pizza delivery man. Yet this is the sort of logic you're going off of. A pic is merely an extension of one's profile for the purpose of advertising physical looks and attributes. It's not inviting you to anything. It's merely showing any reader here what someone looks like (or their junk) so that you can either like what you see or pass them by if you're not interested in merely looks. Kind of like looking through paint swatch samples. No sample is inviting itself to be a color on your wall. It's merely advertising itself in case you take an interest in that specific color. "Or,hey I'll be in your area in a month?,wanna hook up ... .That is not pathetic nor desperate, either. Mind you , this is a hookup site." Again, not true. This site CAN be a hookup site, but it's NOT solely a hookup site. This is precisely where all of the confusion always stems from when almost all men on here think the site is designed for one and only one purpose for sex ONLY. It's not at all! This very blog is positive and absolute proof of that. But again, the topic was about these guys on here being desperate and pathetic reaching out to add people to a friends-list, or arranging a meet-hookup in place they'll be visiting. About pictures? Pictures are invitations, says, " I'm on this site, come check me out". A picture of a pyramid can say many things to someone, as well as a picture of a pizza, but bottom line, it's an invitation to the person viewing the picture. So again... the guys [he noted] sending typed or pictorial or both is an invitation. Definitely an invitation because noted are the words, among other words, "....wanna hookup". Yes , you can complain this isn't "ONLY" a hook up site.... but when people do internet searches to find some action.... this , among others, shows up in the list. You want the non-sexual level of chatting , I would then suggest going to , "Friendfinder".... not "Gay Hookup Zone"...... Don't worry, on "Friendfinder" you still have to be 18 and over to participate.
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2/9/2020 10:56 pm |
HeathenG, "I said nothing about , "Only". This is a hookup site." Wrong again. I know you didn't say "only", I did...or to say differently I said " it's not clearly ONLY". You are claiming that this site is JUST ONE thing, meaning "ONLY". That one thing you claim it to be is a hookup site. You're missing the point I am making. It's NOT JUST/ONLY a hookup site. This site is also a place for online only things, such as chatting, mingling, voting and everything else referred to as social media and social networking. This very blog that you are having a debate about it with me is solid proof that this site offers more than just "hookups". Have you come to the blog section for a hookup? No, of course not! Your profile states this about you: "Interested in: Women. Just here to find some women for the usual fun." That being said, do you not only wander on to the blog section, but on to a blog from a male user from Ontario (if you are straight and live in Washington) if in fact (judging by your very logic) that this site is strictly just one thing....a hookup site? Of course not! You're overlooking the fact that this blog that you come to and write on is proof that this site is way more than just a hookup site. It's a combined social media outlet and the corporate page clearly outlines that fact, as does everything you can easily view and access on this site, which pertains to online-only activity. "Those who don't want anything to do with hooking up have other optional sites, such as "Friendfinder" or "Eharmony" or just plain chat room sites, or even penpal sites." This sentence is a mess, so let me break it down. That's partly true. In life there are plenty of options and plenty of places we each can choose to go to. That's our freedom to do so. People come to specific sites for specific and/or different reasons. Here are the site differences: Eharmony - This is generally a site where people go to find relationships, love and to date. Various penpal sites - sure, I can imagine general Platonic chat/penpal sites exist out there for just that sort of thing. Friendfinder - You're a little confused on this one. Friendfinder is the head company (Various, Inc.) called the Friend Finder Network. In that gigantic network exists a whole series of sister sites. Gay Hookup Zone is the biggest sister site within the Friend Finder Network (the site that you are on and don't even realize you're on Friend Finder, how ironic!). There are tons of sister sites under the Friend Finder Network, including Gay Hookup Zone, Cams(dot)com, Alt(dot)com, OutPersonals, AsiaFriendFinder(dot)com, Amigos(dot)com, SeniorFriendFinder(dot)com, JewishFriendFinder(dot)com, BigChurch(dot)com, MillionaireMate and perhaps others. Again, that's all described to you on the corporate page of this very site you belong to. Then there is Gay Hookup Zone - It's a combination adult personals site, as well as an adult social media outlet (yes, refer to corporate page and everywhere you look around you here, including this blog). Adult based personals site can mean you seek anything for an in-person experience....including friendships, dating, romance, intimacy/sex, FWB's, NSA's, swinging/gangbangs and things like that. Adult based social media site can mean that people can come here for online-only things...including socializing (email/IM/chat rooms), web camming, blogging, groups, sex academy, profile reading/viewing media content (pics/videos), blinging, photo contests, adult magazines, adult videos, erotic stories, etc... You do realize that ALL of that stuff is NOT "hookups", correct? People who come here for online-only things come here for the adult aspect of it all, whether that be to let go and chat in a naughty manner, or to join sexy/nude pic contests, or to be an author/reader of the newest amateur erotic story, or to complain on a blog about the latest dipshit who wrote to her, or to describe on a blog the craziest night of sex someone has had. Whatever the reason for online-only intent, this is most definitely the appropriate place to come to share all of that sort of thing (as opposed to some Platonic or vanilla designed site in which one cannot express yourself in that way)...and the reason there are options on this site to do that is precisely because this site is designed for it, which disproves your fabricated mentality that this site is merely a "hookup site" and nothing more. Total nonsense! That's why millions of people exist on this site, not solely to hookup, but rather engage in what this site offers in many, many other ways. "But again, the topic was about these guys on here being desperate and pathetic reaching out to add people to a friends-list, or arranging a meet-hookup in place they'll be visiting." I'm not disagreeing. From my experiences in piecing the mentality together from what I observe, it seems that men have no desire at all to read profiles, learn basics about why a woman is here, determine basic compatibility levels from profile details and write to her if there seems to be a reasonable level of similarity in what he seeks per what her profile describes she seeks. That's the entire problem...ignorance and laziness! Instead, men will simply set up a thousand fishing poles, cast out their bait blindly to as many women as they can with cheesey, vague or copy/pasted comments and then pray that one lonely and desperate woman out there who is horny, lacks morals, self respect or has low self-esteem will chime in and be interested. That's not how the game works. We have profiles for a reason. "About pictures? Pictures are invitations, says, " I'm on this site, come check me out". A picture of a pyramid can say many things to someone, as well as a picture of a pizza, but bottom line, it's an invitation to the person viewing the picture." A picture is essentially an advertisement, it's NOT NECESSARILY an invitation. A picture can be many things. It can simply mean that someone is a show-off (yes, that muscular body builder who lathers up his abs with baby oil in an attempt to lure the women in by advertising that he's physically in shape more so than those beer belly male counterparts)...or the attention whore who feels the need to post 42 selfie photos of herself and of the group of bimbos she hangs with down at the local corner bar every Friday night. Some people simply seek attention for the pure sake of filling a void of not feeling accepted in society, others are trying to lure in sexual partners. Then others yet simply have photos up which are simply for their very own fun and personal reasons to simply accent their profiles, which don't suggest anything sexual, flirty or nude at all. It could merely be media used for the sake of art and expression. So, long story short, a pic is an advertisement or expression of one's self. It's not necessarily inviting others to say "come and get it" as it is to just merely advertise "this is what I have/look like/do/enjoy". "So again... the guys [he noted] sending typed or pictorial or both is an invitation. Definitely an invitation because noted are the words, among other words, "....wanna hookup". " Right...for the guys whose written profiles actually say they are here seeking something sexual (and show pics of their junk), then I agree. However, there are plenty of people who are usually women on this site who simply come here for fun and innocent online reasons just to tease, flirt or to express through some sort of erotic art as their pics. And if you read many of these women's profiles, you'll see that the pic will be contrary to some of them whose purpose here has nothing to do with them seeking sex hookups or anything like that. They don't match. Proof that profile descriptions have their dedicated place in the game, whereas a profile photograph of anything at all is merely media which doesn't necessarily mean anything more than that. "Yes , you can complain this isn't "ONLY" a hook up site.... but when people do internet searches to find some action.... this , among others, shows up in the list." I'm not complaining. I'm telling you the truth about the collected facts that I read and observe on this site and FROM this site. The corporate page will describe these facts to you, as well as the other collected facts I've described to you above regarding web cams, chatting, blogs, contests, erotic stories, etc... So sure, I'm not disagreeing with you that plenty of people DO come here for sexual intent and that's perfectly acceptable because the site offers a personals section on this site which is dedicated for such adult related searches. What you're not understanding are two things: 1.) Double purpose - That this site is equally an adult based personals site (in person purposes) as well as an adult based social media outlet (online purposes). 2.) The site is ONLY a business - When people do online searches on the internet to find adult action, enormously wealthy and popular corporations are the first on the lists because they spend a HUGE amount of money and resources into the marketing campaign to be at the top of those browser searches. Once you are on the actual Gay Hookup Zone site, you also see an enormous amount of effort being put forth into advertising and marketing "sex" or sexy sort of stock photos and photo/animated banners of advertising everywhere you look here to give users the illusion of "sex" or "abundance". Why? Because this is a business. It only has one mission; to generate as much profit as it can through lies, manipulation, corruption, fake profiles, temptation and so forth. It could care less if any man or woman gets laid or finds success. In fact, their mission does it's best to restrict people from finding success because the longer they can lie, manipulate and trick suckers into staying here and paying month after month in what's almost entirely a game of illusion, the richer they become. "You want the non-sexual level of chatting , I would then suggest going to , "Friendfinder".... not "Gay Hookup Zone"...... Don't worry, on "Friendfinder" you still have to be 18 and over to participate." Again dumb dumb, you are on the Friend Finder network yourself and don't even realize it! Gay Hookup Zone is a part of the Friend Finder Network and is their biggest sister site. Duh! Don't attempt to put me down, when in fact you are clueless on the very site you belong to. Just because I have my own personal reasons in which I choose not to talk sexually to others on here, doesn't mean that I don't engage in adult related things on this site, which gives me every legitimate reason to be on this site. You have this really shallow-minded level of mentality to think that just because I choose not to talk dirty to the endless parade of losers who contact me, that I'm some saint that belongs on some other vanilla site, when in fact I partake in plenty of adult (18+) related content around here. Smh. Gay Hookup Zone®, Adult Friend FinderSM, Gay Hookup Zone®, FriendFinder NetworksSM and the FriendFinder Networks logo are service marks of Various, Inc.
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2/9/2020 11:33 pm |
HeathenG, Breaking down the corporate page. It reads this: "WHO WE ARE FriendFinder pioneered and continues to innovate some of the most popular and widely-used dating and entertainment websites in the world. We run the world’s first and by far the largest adult dating network with one goal in mind: bringing in like-minded people together for fun, intimacy and love." Read it over? I quote: "bringing in like-minded people together for fun, intimacy and love. " Am I here for love? No. Am I here for intimacy? Nope. Am I here for fun? YES! 'Fun' is defined as such: "enjoyment, amusement, or lighthearted pleasure." There you have it. I belong on a site for fun reasons of enjoyment and amusement because this site specifically offers and outlines it's very purpose and design for those who come here for that. It continues...: "Every day we’re finding new ways to help our members engage, communicate and connect with people who are looking for exciting experiences both online and offline." It specifically outlines COMMUNICATE and for purposes for both online and OFFLINE!! What part of my existence don't you understand yet in which you attempt a mockery of and fail, by the very description I'm copying/pasting here directly from the site we're both on here?? Moving on...the page also reads this: "THE PIONEER IN ONLINE DATING FriendFinder originally started as a mainstream social networking site when it was founded in 1996 by Andrew Conru, then a Ph.D. student at Stanford University. Over the next few years, the company quickly adapted to consumer preferences and branched out into over twenty different social media and dating-related verticals. In early 2005, the company merged with Cams.com, a live webcam model site, originally started by Lars Mapstead in 1999. Since then, Cams.com has become one of the largest providers of live model webcams in the world." It gives a brief bio of it's history and how the company started, how it grew and how it branched out into TWENTY DIFFERENT (yes Gay Hookup Zone is included in the Friend Finder Network by their very description...how about that proof that you tried to put me down for??). TWENTY...Yes TWENTY sister sites under the Friend Finder Network. Chew on that one. It also goes on to say that out of those TWENTY sister sites, it branched out into "social media and dating-related verticals". Yes, SOCIAL MEDIA, which is why I'm here!!! It continues by saying these final words: "Today, FriendFinder’s award-winning portfolio of services synergistically combines the technical and brand assets of online personals, social-networking, live video chat, recorded video, online chat rooms, webcams, instant messaging, photo and video sharing, and premium content. With over 700,000,000 (not a typo; that’s 700 MILLION!) people engaged with at least one of our websites, and a track record of over twenty years of positive customer experiences, we continue our mission of pioneering new development of innovative, social media technology connecting people every day all over the world." See where it says it offers services of "PERSONALS", SOCIAL MEDIA", "SOCIAL NETWORKING" and other forms of social media??? Again, I'm perfectly within my boundaries to be here for such reasons!! It describes the Friend Finder Network to have OVER 700 million members...do you honestly think every single 700+ million members are coming here specifically and solely for "hookups", as you've described? Too funny! Furthermore, it says"we continue our mission of pioneering new development of innovative, social media technology connecting people every day all over the world."...catch that part once again about it's definition of SOCIAL MEDIA technology? The sheer gall and ignorance to point the finger at the innocent, when in fact you belong to a site in which you don't even understand it's many purposes which accommodate for many people of all walks of life who come here. Icing on the cake is when you attempt to refer me to another site (Friend Finder) and don't even realize that you, yourself belong to to Friend Finder Network yourself if you exist here on Gay Hookup Zone. Now that is a backfire! Smh!
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2/9/2020 11:38 pm |
HeathenG, Breaking down the corporate page. It reads this: "WHO WE ARE FriendFinder pioneered and continues to innovate some of the most popular and widely-used dating and entertainment websites in the world. We run the world’s first and by far the largest adult dating network with one goal in mind: bringing in like-minded people together for fun, intimacy and love." Read it over? I quote: "bringing in like-minded people together for fun, intimacy and love. " Am I here for love? No. Am I here for intimacy? Nope. Am I here for fun? YES! 'Fun' is defined as such: "enjoyment, amusement, or lighthearted pleasure." There you have it. I belong on a site for fun reasons of enjoyment and amusement because this site specifically offers and outlines it's very purpose and design for those who come here for that. It continues...: "Every day we’re finding new ways to help our members engage, communicate and connect with people who are looking for exciting experiences both online and offline." It specifically outlines COMMUNICATE and for purposes for both online and OFFLINE!! What part of my existence don't you understand yet in which you attempt a mockery of and fail, by the very description I'm copying/pasting here directly from the site we're both on here?? Moving on...the page also reads this: "THE PIONEER IN ONLINE DATING FriendFinder originally started as a mainstream social networking site when it was founded in 1996 by Andrew Conru, then a Ph.D. student at Stanford University. Over the next few years, the company quickly adapted to consumer preferences and branched out into over twenty different social media and dating-related verticals. In early 2005, the company merged with Cams.com, a live webcam model site, originally started by Lars Mapstead in 1999. Since then, Cams.com has become one of the largest providers of live model webcams in the world." It gives a brief bio of it's history and how the company started, how it grew and how it branched out into TWENTY DIFFERENT (yes Gay Hookup Zone is included in the Friend Finder Network by their very description...how about that proof that you tried to put me down for??). TWENTY...Yes TWENTY sister sites under the Friend Finder Network. Chew on that one. It also goes on to say that out of those TWENTY sister sites, it branched out into "social media and dating-related verticals". Yes, SOCIAL MEDIA, which is why I'm here!!! It continues by saying these final words: "Today, FriendFinder’s award-winning portfolio of services synergistically combines the technical and brand assets of online personals, social-networking, live video chat, recorded video, online chat rooms, webcams, instant messaging, photo and video sharing, and premium content. With over 700,000,000 (not a typo; that’s 700 MILLION!) people engaged with at least one of our websites, and a track record of over twenty years of positive customer experiences, we continue our mission of pioneering new development of innovative, social media technology connecting people every day all over the world." See where it says it offers services of "PERSONALS", SOCIAL MEDIA", "SOCIAL NETWORKING" and other forms of social media??? Again, I'm perfectly within my boundaries to be here for such reasons!! It describes the Friend Finder Network to have OVER 700 million members...do you honestly think every single 700+ million members are coming here specifically and solely for "hookups", as you've described? Too funny! Furthermore, it says "we continue our mission of pioneering new development of innovative, social media technology connecting people every day all over the world."...catch that part once again about it's definition of SOCIAL MEDIA technology? The sheer gall and ignorance to point the finger at the innocent, when in fact you belong to a site in which you don't even understand it's many purposes which accommodate for many people of all walks of life who come here. Icing on the cake is when you attempt to refer me to another site (Friend Finder) that you think is more vanilla than Gay Hookup Zone and you don't even realize that you, yourself belong to to Friend Finder Network yourself if you exist here on Gay Hookup Zone. Now that is a backfire! Smh! Gay Hookup Zone®, Adult Friend FinderSM, Gay Hookup Zone®, FriendFinder NetworksSM and the FriendFinder Networks logo are service marks of Various, Inc.
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HeathenG, "I said nothing about , "Only". This is a hookup site." Wrong again. I know you didn't say "only", I did...or to say differently I said " it's not clearly ONLY". You are claiming that this site is JUST ONE thing, meaning "ONLY". That one thing you claim it to be is a hookup site. You're missing the point I am making. It's NOT JUST/ONLY a hookup site. This site is also a place for online only things, such as chatting, mingling, voting and everything else referred to as social media and social networking. This very blog that you are having a debate about it with me is solid proof that this site offers more than just "hookups". Have you come to the blog section for a hookup? No, of course not! Your profile states this about you: "Interested in: Women. Just here to find some women for the usual fun." That being said, do you not only wander on to the blog section, but on to a blog from a male user from Ontario (if you are straight and live in Washington) if in fact (judging by your very logic) that this site is strictly just one thing....a hookup site? Of course not! You're overlooking the fact that this blog that you come to and write on is proof that this site is way more than just a hookup site. It's a combined social media outlet and the corporate page clearly outlines that fact, as does everything you can easily view and access on this site, which pertains to online-only activity. "Those who don't want anything to do with hooking up have other optional sites, such as "Friendfinder" or "Eharmony" or just plain chat room sites, or even penpal sites." This sentence is a mess, so let me break it down. That's partly true. In life there are plenty of options and plenty of places we each can choose to go to. That's our freedom to do so. People come to specific sites for specific and/or different reasons. Here are the site differences: Eharmony - This is generally a site where people go to find relationships, love and to date. Various penpal sites - sure, I can imagine general Platonic chat/penpal sites exist out there for just that sort of thing. Friendfinder - You're a little confused on this one. Friendfinder is the head company (Various, Inc.) called the Friend Finder Network. In that gigantic network exists a whole series of sister sites. Gay Hookup Zone is the biggest sister site within the Friend Finder Network (the site that you are on and don't even realize you're on Friend Finder, how ironic!). There are tons of sister sites under the Friend Finder Network, including Gay Hookup Zone, Cams(dot)com, Alt(dot)com, OutPersonals, AsiaFriendFinder(dot)com, Amigos(dot)com, SeniorFriendFinder(dot)com, JewishFriendFinder(dot)com, BigChurch(dot)com, MillionaireMate and perhaps others. Again, that's all described to you on the corporate page of this very site you belong to. Then there is Gay Hookup Zone - It's a combination adult personals site, as well as an adult social media outlet (yes, refer to corporate page and everywhere you look around you here, including this blog). Adult based personals site can mean you seek anything for an in-person experience....including friendships, dating, romance, intimacy/sex, FWB's, NSA's, swinging/gangbangs and things like that. Adult based social media site can mean that people can come here for online-only things...including socializing (email/IM/chat rooms), web camming, blogging, groups, sex academy, profile reading/viewing media content (pics/videos), blinging, photo contests, adult magazines, adult videos, erotic stories, etc... You do realize that ALL of that stuff is NOT "hookups", correct? People who come here for online-only things come here for the adult aspect of it all, whether that be to let go and chat in a naughty manner, or to join sexy/nude pic contests, or to be an author/reader of the newest amateur erotic story, or to complain on a blog about the latest dipshit who wrote to her, or to describe on a blog the craziest night of sex someone has had. Whatever the reason for online-only intent, this is most definitely the appropriate place to come to share all of that sort of thing (as opposed to some Platonic or vanilla designed site in which one cannot express yourself in that way)...and the reason there are options on this site to do that is precisely because this site is designed for it, which disproves your fabricated mentality that this site is merely a "hookup site" and nothing more. Total nonsense! That's why millions of people exist on this site, not solely to hookup, but rather engage in what this site offers in many, many other ways. "But again, the topic was about these guys on here being desperate and pathetic reaching out to add people to a friends-list, or arranging a meet-hookup in place they'll be visiting." I'm not disagreeing. From my experiences in piecing the mentality together from what I observe, it seems that men have no desire at all to read profiles, learn basics about why a woman is here, determine basic compatibility levels from profile details and write to her if there seems to be a reasonable level of similarity in what he seeks per what her profile describes she seeks. That's the entire problem...ignorance and laziness! Instead, men will simply set up a thousand fishing poles, cast out their bait blindly to as many women as they can with cheesey, vague or copy/pasted comments and then pray that one lonely and desperate woman out there who is horny, lacks morals, self respect or has low self-esteem will chime in and be interested. That's not how the game works. We have profiles for a reason. "About pictures? Pictures are invitations, says, " I'm on this site, come check me out". A picture of a pyramid can say many things to someone, as well as a picture of a pizza, but bottom line, it's an invitation to the person viewing the picture." A picture is essentially an advertisement, it's NOT NECESSARILY an invitation. A picture can be many things. It can simply mean that someone is a show-off (yes, that muscular body builder who lathers up his abs with baby oil in an attempt to lure the women in by advertising that he's physically in shape more so than those beer belly male counterparts)...or the attention whore who feels the need to post 42 selfie photos of herself and of the group of bimbos she hangs with down at the local corner bar every Friday night. Some people simply seek attention for the pure sake of filling a void of not feeling accepted in society, others are trying to lure in sexual partners. Then others yet simply have photos up which are simply for their very own fun and personal reasons to simply accent their profiles, which don't suggest anything sexual, flirty or nude at all. It could merely be media used for the sake of art and expression. So, long story short, a pic is an advertisement or expression of one's self. It's not necessarily inviting others to say "come and get it" as it is to just merely advertise "this is what I have/look like/do/enjoy". "So again... the guys [he noted] sending typed or pictorial or both is an invitation. Definitely an invitation because noted are the words, among other words, "....wanna hookup". " Right...for the guys whose written profiles actually say they are here seeking something sexual (and show pics of their junk), then I agree. However, there are plenty of people who are usually women on this site who simply come here for fun and innocent online reasons just to tease, flirt or to express through some sort of erotic art as their pics. And if you read many of these women's profiles, you'll see that the pic will be contrary to some of them whose purpose here has nothing to do with them seeking sex hookups or anything like that. They don't match. Proof that profile descriptions have their dedicated place in the game, whereas a profile photograph of anything at all is merely media which doesn't necessarily mean anything more than that. "Yes , you can complain this isn't "ONLY" a hook up site.... but when people do internet searches to find some action.... this , among others, shows up in the list." I'm not complaining. I'm telling you the truth about the collected facts that I read and observe on this site and FROM this site. The corporate page will describe these facts to you, as well as the other collected facts I've described to you above regarding web cams, chatting, blogs, contests, erotic stories, etc... So sure, I'm not disagreeing with you that plenty of people DO come here for sexual intent and that's perfectly acceptable because the site offers a personals section on this site which is dedicated for such adult related searches. What you're not understanding are two things: 1.) Double purpose - That this site is equally an adult based personals site (in person purposes) as well as an adult based social media outlet (online purposes). 2.) The site is ONLY a business - When people do online searches on the internet to find adult action, enormously wealthy and popular corporations are the first on the lists because they spend a HUGE amount of money and resources into the marketing campaign to be at the top of those browser searches. Once you are on the actual Gay Hookup Zone site, you also see an enormous amount of effort being put forth into advertising and marketing "sex" or sexy sort of stock photos and photo/animated banners of advertising everywhere you look here to give users the illusion of "sex" or "abundance". Why? Because this is a business. It only has one mission; to generate as much profit as it can through lies, manipulation, corruption, fake profiles, temptation and so forth. It could care less if any man or woman gets laid or finds success. In fact, their mission does it's best to restrict people from finding success because the longer they can lie, manipulate and trick suckers into staying here and paying month after month in what's almost entirely a game of illusion, the richer they become. "You want the non-sexual level of chatting , I would then suggest going to , "Friendfinder".... not "Gay Hookup Zone"...... Don't worry, on "Friendfinder" you still have to be 18 and over to participate." Again dumb dumb, you are on the Friend Finder network yourself and don't even realize it! Gay Hookup Zone is a part of the Friend Finder Network and is their biggest sister site. Duh! Don't attempt to put me down, when in fact you are clueless on the very site you belong to. Just because I have my own personal reasons in which I choose not to talk sexually to others on here, doesn't mean that I don't engage in adult related things on this site, which gives me every legitimate reason to be on this site. You have this really shallow-minded level of mentality to think that just because I choose not to talk dirty to the endless parade of losers who contact me, that I'm some saint that belongs on some other vanilla site, when in fact I partake in plenty of adult (18+) related content around here. Smh. Gay Hookup Zone®, Adult Friend FinderSM, Gay Hookup Zone®, FriendFinder NetworksSM and the FriendFinder Networks logo are service marks of Various, Inc. You are on a predominate sex site. You want friends to chitty-chat with, there are better sites to find that.
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HeathenG, Breaking down the corporate page. It reads this: "WHO WE ARE FriendFinder pioneered and continues to innovate some of the most popular and widely-used dating and entertainment websites in the world. We run the world’s first and by far the largest adult dating network with one goal in mind: bringing in like-minded people together for fun, intimacy and love." Read it over? I quote: "bringing in like-minded people together for fun, intimacy and love. " Am I here for love? No. Am I here for intimacy? Nope. Am I here for fun? YES! 'Fun' is defined as such: "enjoyment, amusement, or lighthearted pleasure." There you have it. I belong on a site for fun reasons of enjoyment and amusement because this site specifically offers and outlines it's very purpose and design for those who come here for that. It continues...: "Every day we’re finding new ways to help our members engage, communicate and connect with people who are looking for exciting experiences both online and offline." It specifically outlines COMMUNICATE and for purposes for both online and OFFLINE!! What part of my existence don't you understand yet in which you attempt a mockery of and fail, by the very description I'm copying/pasting here directly from the site we're both on here?? Moving on...the page also reads this: "THE PIONEER IN ONLINE DATING FriendFinder originally started as a mainstream social networking site when it was founded in 1996 by Andrew Conru, then a Ph.D. student at Stanford University. Over the next few years, the company quickly adapted to consumer preferences and branched out into over twenty different social media and dating-related verticals. In early 2005, the company merged with Cams.com, a live webcam model site, originally started by Lars Mapstead in 1999. Since then, Cams.com has become one of the largest providers of live model webcams in the world." It gives a brief bio of it's history and how the company started, how it grew and how it branched out into TWENTY DIFFERENT (yes Gay Hookup Zone is included in the Friend Finder Network by their very description...how about that proof that you tried to put me down for??). TWENTY...Yes TWENTY sister sites under the Friend Finder Network. Chew on that one. It also goes on to say that out of those TWENTY sister sites, it branched out into "social media and dating-related verticals". Yes, SOCIAL MEDIA, which is why I'm here!!! It continues by saying these final words: "Today, FriendFinder’s award-winning portfolio of services synergistically combines the technical and brand assets of online personals, social-networking, live video chat, recorded video, online chat rooms, webcams, instant messaging, photo and video sharing, and premium content. With over 700,000,000 (not a typo; that’s 700 MILLION!) people engaged with at least one of our websites, and a track record of over twenty years of positive customer experiences, we continue our mission of pioneering new development of innovative, social media technology connecting people every day all over the world." See where it says it offers services of "PERSONALS", SOCIAL MEDIA", "SOCIAL NETWORKING" and other forms of social media??? Again, I'm perfectly within my boundaries to be here for such reasons!! It describes the Friend Finder Network to have OVER 700 million members...do you honestly think every single 700+ million members are coming here specifically and solely for "hookups", as you've described? Too funny! Furthermore, it says"we continue our mission of pioneering new development of innovative, social media technology connecting people every day all over the world."...catch that part once again about it's definition of SOCIAL MEDIA technology? The sheer gall and ignorance to point the finger at the innocent, when in fact you belong to a site in which you don't even understand it's many purposes which accommodate for many people of all walks of life who come here. Icing on the cake is when you attempt to refer me to another site (Friend Finder) and don't even realize that you, yourself belong to to Friend Finder Network yourself if you exist here on Gay Hookup Zone. Now that is a backfire! Smh!
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2/11/2020 1:50 pm |
Heathen_G, "The men wanting to hook up with you for sex, are clearly on the correct site to do so." I agree. They are on an appropriate site to do so. Again, what part am I not making clear to you yet that this site IS a combined adult personals site as well as an adult social media outlet? I have already gone above and beyond to prove that to you through facts and through sources on this site and elsewhere that clearly states those facts to you. So yes, I respect the fact that a lot of men here are on the site for sex. That's not the issue at hand. The issue is that these men are irrelevantly contacting me (and plenty of other women) on this site for sex, when in fact our profiles clearly outline the contrary of our purposes here (i.e. to socialize or to use this site for any number of social media/networking purposes). THAT'S THE PROBLEM! I respect why THEY are here if they seek sex. THEY are NOT respecting why women like myself ARE here. You still don't seem to understand that part, no matter how many times we go over it. "Are any of those guys pathetic or desperate? Maybe. But without details, I have to say, "Not pathetic , not desperate"." I do see a lot of desperate men on here, but who knows how many. Overall, every man generally joins this site with the same level of odds and opportunities as the next guy. It's all in his actions and choices which will ultimately determine the level of success from the competition and imbalanced gender ratio he's faced with. "You are on a predominate sex site." Not true. It's not at all "prodominate" that more people are here seeking sex than what their level of success is in actually acquiring that goal, nor is it "predominate" that this site is more about people belonging here for the search of sex as it is people belonging here for the equal use of this site's many other online options such as this blog, cams, erotic stories, contests or anything else at all relating to social media and social networking activities. You simply want to believe that's true by your OPINION, yet millions of people as we speak are using this site for online-only activities and I can only imagine that only a tiny, tiny fraction of those combined millions are actually "hooking up" or doing so as we speak. On the contrary...this site is actually used more so for online-only business rather than anyone actually succeeding in in-person business. As for even more proof, if you Wiki 'Friend Finder Networks' and 'Gay Hookup Zone', it gives a very clear description that The FFN and Gay Hookup Zone are designed for these purposes, I quote: (FFN) - "The company primarily deals in adult entertainment, online dating, and social networking services." Yes, "PRIMARILY DEALS" in ADULT ENTERTAINMENT (my purpose on site) and SOCIAL NETWORKING (my purpose on site). (Gay Hookup Zone) - "is an internet-based, adult-oriented social network, online dating service and swinger personals community website" Yes, INTERNET-BASED, ADULT-ORIENTED SOCIAL NETWORKING WEBSITE (my purpose on site). So how much more proof do you honestly need before you wake up and realize that this site is a combined adult-based personals site as well as an adult-based social media/networking website??? "You want friends to chitty-chat with, there are better sites to find that." Chit chat is only part of the reason I come here. You see me writing to you on this blog, don't you? Again, that's proof that I utilize this site for more than just chit chat. I also read blogs, read erotic stories, occasionally watch cams, view/rate photo contests and whatever else I end up sometimes poking around on within this site. Like I said before, you have this screwball mentality to think that I come here for just one reason and if I'm not on this site solely to seek "hookups" only, then you feel as if I don't belong here. Get a clue. 700+ million people are NOT all on this site to find "hookups". Millions upon millions of people use this site ONLY for social media/networking activity and for online-only entertainment purposes. Why? Because the very definition and outlined description of the FFN and Gay Hookup Zone give us that option to do so. Quit trying to restrict valid member purpose and options for your shallow-minded, inaccurate and knukle-headed conditioned views that this site is NOT more than something that you claim it to be (i.e. designed for "hookups"). That's only partly true. It's designed for all kinds of people who seek all kinds of things and for all kinds of various reasons. Once you understand that, you'll better understand what this site is and better understand why it has been reduced to dust over the years when it comes to hardly no real women left here, none who usually interact with men via chat and almost none who have a desire to meet any of them due to silly mentality like this, behavioral issues, ignorance, laziness and otherwise. "And the men here , looking for sex, are perfectly within their boundaries." I never denied that fact and I respect what each person is here for. To reiterate, the problem on site pertains to laziness and ignorance when people who seek sex are irrelevantly contacting women whose very profile is contrary to that. THAT'S THE ISSUE! NOBODY READS PROFILES! NOBODY READS SITE DESCRIPTION! NOBODY COMPREHENDS ANYTHING! EVERYONE IS LAZY! EVERYONE IS IGNORANT! How on earth can people expect a level of success when the vast majority on here don't even understand the very site they belong to, don't read, ignore, is rude, etc...?? This is exactly why the site has become what it is. So I'm not faulting anyone coming here who seeks sex. I respect that. Problem being, I never get the same respect back in turn by people who actually read, comprehend profile and site terms and who follow through in a decent manner without argument, retort or without this knuckle-headed mentality around here that this site is only just one thing and that's that. Too funny! Years ago, this site actually had potential because people were strapped down to PC's in order to chat. They made time to chat. They made time to read. They made time to want to get to know people. And overall, this site was abundant with opportunities and a really good success level. How on earth can anyone these days expect success when people now blindly contact us without reading because they are lazy and ignorant? How can people find success when people want to IM us when they are busy at work or while driving or shopping and pre-occupied (hint: we're not the priority in that equation). Worse yet, everyone on this site has this 'enemy by default' sort of mentality when interacting. The second someone is not a match or politely points out inconsistencies or a lack of compatibility, then suddenly women get one of the following... 1.) Ignored indefinitely and without closure. 2.) Retorted on and argued with (always being claimed it's the woman's fault when it isn't). 3.) Blocked (which is an extension of #1, ignorance). The site has become a complete train wreck, all due to silly mentality, behavioral issues and choices every day around here which people willingly choose to make which hurts their odds and ultimately continually keeps driving this site and all of it's women nose first into the ground.
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Attn. Rochblue.... ADULT-ORIENTED SOCIAL NETWORKING ..... "Adult"...Sex. For instance: "Adult movie" .....x rated ...."Adult cruise".... women will be topless or naked. The issue is that these men are irrelevantly contacting me (and plenty of other women) on this site for sex, .... Yes, they may be taking a chance, or completely ignoring what your profile says, because this is sex site, and regardless of what you say on your profile, you are still fair game. .....When you're on this site. ..... If you go to "Friendfinder", then far less likely , if at all, any man would proposition you for sex. Don't walk through a thorn field looking for butterflies, and complain about the thorns. when in fact our profiles clearly outline the contrary of our purposes here ......Doesn't matter what your profile says. If a man wants to take a chance, or even has backbone to take a chance, HE WILL.
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2/12/2020 7:11 am |
Heathen_G, ""Adult"...Sex. For instance: "Adult movie" .....x rated ...."Adult cruise".... women will be topless or naked." Oh stop! You're ridiculous! The word 'adult' doesn't necessarily get translated into meaning 'sex'. Must I define the word for you? Of course I should... 'Adult' defined: NOUN * a person who is fully grown or developed. * a fully developed animal. * a person who has reached the age of majority. VERB * behave in a way characteristic of a responsible adult, especially by accomplishing mundane but necessary tasks. ADJECTIVE * (of a person or animal) fully grown or developed. * of or for adult people. * emotionally and mentally mature. * sexually explicit or pornographic (used euphemistically to refer to a movie, book, or magazine). So there you have it. The word adult can be interpreted in any form we choose it to mean, but overall what this site is designed for are mature people who are of legal age (18+). From there, all that it implies is that people who belong to this site are mature (18+) and will be subjected to possibly and probably being exposed to nude, sexual, verbal or graphic content. And that's perfectly fine. I'm no angel, nor do I claim to be. I AM on this site for those sort of things, as I have repeatedly described to you in the previous messages. Just because I have a choice to choose not to cyber and talk dirty to the men who write, doesn't mean that I'm not doing other things on site which pertain to nudity, sexual, visual or verbally written content of an adult nature. We all have boundaries, choices, preferences and limits to why we're here, what we seek and what we tell people we're here for. That should always be respected. "Yes, they may be taking a chance, or completely ignoring what your profile says, because this is sex site..." Taking a chance? You make absolutely no sense whatsoever! If any woman's profile claims to be updated at all times and that she is ONLY here to socialize and engage in social media sort of activity, then there is no such chance to take because no such chance even exists in the first place for some loser to be contacting me for sex, cyber or anything else that my profile clearly describes to them....hence, the exact reason we all have profiles to begin with. Yes, they serve a valid purpose. Read them. Comprehend them. Respect them. Simple! And no matter how many dozens of times I keep telling you that this is NOT SOLELY a sex site, as well as continually showing you fact after fact and the sources of those collected facts, you continue using that "sex site" phrase as if this site only exists for one single purpose. It doesn't! How many times must I say that this blog that you and I are chatting on is solid proof that this site is MORE than a sex site? Have you appeared on pleasuresuckn4u's blog to find a sex partner? Of course not! You make no sense at all! You constantly keep proving yourself wrong between the things you do on here and the contrary things you say. You: Telling me to go to a more vanilla site like Friend Finder if I want casual chat...yet not realizing that you and I are both on Friend Finder by the fact that we are on Gay Hookup Zone. You: Telling me that this site is only a sex site/hookup site...yet overlooking the fact that you keep coming back to a blog, which isn't at all getting laid or finding a person to get laid by on some guy's blog and who is talking about the unrealistic factors of those who write to him. Make sense! "...and regardless of what you say on your profile, you are still fair game." There is no "regardless of what I say on my profile". It's like I described to you over and over again. That's called "laziness" and "ignorance". A profile is a vital tool of information to read, comprehend, respect and ONLY contact that person if there are relevant and similar matches between what the reader reads against what that woman says she's here for. Period! Stop making excuses for laziness and ignorance. If my profile tells anyone out there that I am not on the market to meet anyone, then don't sit here telling me I'm fair game for the idiots who are contacting me seeking sex. That's lame as hell! "When you're on this site. ..... If you go to "Friendfinder", then far less likely , if at all, any man would proposition you for sex." Either you're not reading my comments or you're still not comprehending the fact that YOU and I are BOTH on Friend Finder as we speak because Gay Hookup Zone is Friend Finder's flagship sister site. Friendfinder(dot)com is still a site of the Friend Finder Network (FFN). I don't know what you are NOT understanding about that fact so far and the mountains of proof, evidence and sources I've shown you so far??? It's all the same, no matter which site you're on under that branded FFN network of sister sites. The other sites are just supposedly tailored for more specific intent, but overall, the same exact losers who are joined under this branded site are all on the other sites too, again, because it's a network! This is exactly why clowns on a supposed 'vanilla" branch of the FFN will still proposition others for sex, because everyone is clueless, whether it be Gay Hookup Zone, JewishFriendFinder, BigChurch, Amigos, Alt or any other one out there. "Don't walk through a thorn field looking for butterflies, and complain about the thorns." Good comment. I'd have to agree with it on many levels. However, the logic just doesn't quite add up and what the problems happen to be are out of my control. First, I realize this is a thorn field and is why I come here to play with some thorns by allowing this site to be a way to let go and for entertainment purposes via the things this site offers to me here. So I'm well aware that there are delicate roses mixed in with thorns. However, when I come here to navigate my field, I openly and clearly post plenty of warning signs of those nasty thorns and give fair warning to the road ahead. For those not seeking the same walking path as I'm taking, then those signs explain to everyone what my path of destination is on here. I respect the thorns, so long as I keep clear contact from them. I observe thorns, look at pics of thorns, read about thorns but I dare not get involved with any direct contact by any! Why? Because that's a valid and conscious choice I make, just like millions of other do on here. In no way am I not complaining about the thorns, as long as they leave me alone and respect me and why I choose to be the social butterfly that gracefully hovers above the roses. The problems exist when those who do not read posted road signs start poking me with their thorns. This is what the complaint is always about. Your analogy is flawed. That's like having posted signs on the highway stating that the speed limit on that road is 55 mph. So if some clown decides to push his limits, ignore the sign and push his car up to 85 mph, then there is no surprise when he gets pulled over and ticketed for it. Again, the rules and laws are clearly marked and in place for a reason, just as my profile is. For those who don't comply to road signs, will get cited for it...this is the analogy of men who don't respect and comply to my profile. Don't be shocked when a woman lashes a man for not reading, not comprehending and not respecting her profile and then exposes that man all over the place for his ill behavior after he does so. Again, it's the same analogy of the road signs. The idea cannot be any more simple and clear to understand. You make more out of this than what the basic principles, common sense and general protocol are. It's so simple. 1.) Read! 2.) Comprehend. 3.) Respect. 4 a.) If you meet criteria you've read and find yourself to be a similar match to a reasonable level with someone from what you've read and for what you seek here, then at that point write to that person. b.) If you do NOT meet the written criteria for what that person says she seeks, then simply move on and make no contact whatsoever. It's honestly just that simple!!!! "Doesn't matter what your profile says. If a man wants to take a chance, or even has backbone to take a chance, HE WILL." And that's exactly the problem around here with the idiotic mentality of the losers on here. A profile absolutely DOES matter what it says! You are missing the important point time and time again that when a guy reads a profile, it will explain to him if a chance even exists to begin with. That's the very tool of information which will describe to the reader whether of not they are a fair match and in most cases will make or break a deal right from square one if it's not read. I cannot tell you haw many women's profiles I have read where it's outlined out of disgust and complete frustration of how many guys simply just refuse to read profiles but just contact women blindly anyway. Then on the other hand, I see men constantly blogging or writing on their profiles if any women are real or why women don't chat to men anymore. Where's the mystery in that equation????? When men show us women zero respect by NOT reading profiles and NOT having a will to show a woman his level of interest by FIRST reading about her, getting a brief overview of herself, what she's here for, what she seeks and the things she enjoys, then guess what? Women simply go bye-bye. Why? Because it's translated by women to be RUDE! They will either leave the site for good by the hundreds of thousands per year OR they simply reside in small clicky circles of friends who they don't talk to any outsiders OR they don't talk to anyone at all because they gave up on the level of ignorance. laziness and disrespect. It's these so called irrelevant and blind contact "backbone chances" that you describe to be the very thing that's driving women off and turning us all off, whether or not you realize it, admit it or not. Start opening and reading women's profiles and you'll quickly gather plenty of them which describe all of the nonsense that goes on around here that I just described to you. If there is no chance to begin with from what you read, then there is no chance to be taking because that chance doesn't exist and will only push women off here more and more. You guys never seem to understand that fact...ever! If a white woman specifically says she seeks a black man ONLY, then guess what? If you are a white guy, then you aren't a relevant match from the start for what she says she ONLY seeks....hence, no chance whatsoever. So rather than bothering that woman, pissing her off and driving her off site, simply move on. It's painfully that simple! I say I'm here to chat and for online things. If that is NOT why someone is contacting me, then it's only going to piss me off and cause a major conflict. So why, if you already know you have no chance from what you've read??? Again, make logical sense! You're a smart guy and I can tell you are. Problem being is that you look, but you don't see; you listen, but you don't hear. You are so steadfast on your ideas and congregated, fictional and fabricated ideas of what this site is via conditioning factors, that no matter how much proof and hard factual evidence I bring to the table and from valid, legitimate sources, you simply overlook and omit all of the proof without hearing, reading and comprehending all of the things I am telling you. It's amazing that out of a mountain of resources, you still hold fast to the idea that this site and all of it's collected 700+ million people across the entire FFN are all here for one thing and one thing only....sex hookups. And still you overlook the hard fact that you are on a specific blog, which has nothing at all to do with you finding sex hookups on. You are just so blind to it all. The proof is all around you no matter where you look on this site. Look at the banners here and the dozen social media options the members here have. All of which have nothing (or usually almost nothing) at all to do with people finding sex hookups. Wake up! The irony is overwhelming!
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Attn. Rochblue.... .... I'm repeating this basic explanation to you... ADULT-ORIENTED SOCIAL NETWORKING ..... "Adult"...Sex. For instance: "Adult movie" .....x rated ...."Adult cruise".... women will be topless or naked. Go to "Friendfinder" , and you won't see these blogs. You won't be invited to have sex as often as you think you are here. The issue is that these men are irrelevantly contacting me (and plenty of other women) on this site for sex , .... Yes,DUH!! Those men are taking a chance, or completely ignoring what your profile says, because this is sex site, and regardless of what you say on your profile, you are still fair game. .....When you're on this site. ..... If you go to "Friendfinder", then far less likely , if at all, any man would proposition you for sex. Don't walk through a thorn field looking for butterflies, and complain about the thorns. .... Think about it. Doesn't matter what your profile says. If a man wants to take a chance, or even has backbone to take a chance, HE WILL.
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2/14/2020 10:23 am |
Heathen_G, "Attn. Rochblue.... .... I'm repeating this basic explanation to you... ADULT-ORIENTED SOCIAL NETWORKING ..... "Adult"...Sex. For instance: "Adult movie" .....x rated ...."Adult cruise".... women will be topless or naked. Go to "Friendfinder" , and you won't see these blogs. You won't be invited to have sex as often as you think you are here." And I'm continually explaining the same basic explanation to you, as well. If the site offers something to it's members here, then that means that it's a valid option for people to come here for....whether that be personals site intent (i.e. meets, sex, swinging, etc...) or for social media intent (i.e. chatting, web camming, blogs, contests, erotic stories, etc...)....or a combination of both. There is no need to dictate to me that I don't belong on this site for the reasons I'm here, because this site clearly offers valid options that allow me to be here. You tell me to go to Friendfinder because I will NOT see these blogs....ummm, HELLO!!!! Part of the reason I exist on Gay Hookup Zone is because I DO want to read, compose and interact in the blog section. You don't seem to get that yet, do you? IT'S SOCIAL MEDIA in an ADULT-BASED PLATFORM!!! Stop trying to restrict my legitimate reasons for being here! Just because it's ADULT-ORIENTED, does NOT mean that it is REQUIRED to be nothing but sex and sexually explicit intent. That's an option for any of us on here. I know what territory I'm at and can take the heat...just don't attempt to restrict me for why I'm here. That's all! You do know that people blog for all kinds of topics, right? Everything from baking cookies on a snowy winter's night, to having to put their pet elderly down, to talking about a vacation they have just been on, to having a little grumble over something, to taking polls and everything else you can imagine. Again, undeniable proof that this site offers that option to those who simply want to talk about homemade brownies, if they so damn well choose to without some clown like yourself having the knuckle-headed mentality that "this is a sex site" and it's only purpose is for "hookups". Laughable! At the same time, your example of an "adult cruise" is flawed. Women on an adult cruise aren't required to be naked or topless, nor are they being forced to do so. If they do so, they are doing so by CHOICE! Big difference there! This isn't some some nude/topless Nazi cruise you're on which is led and dictated by Captain Hitler. Same if you go to a public nude beach. They are generally called "clothing optional" beaches. Same reason, you are not required or being forced to get naked. For those who do so, it's a choice! Those are all considered adult-oriented things, whether an adult cruise or nude beach. The same analogy goes here with this site. Just because the site offers hookups and sex meets as an option for those here who seek that, it also offers members other options to use this site for. This site isn't only for one purpose and this site isn't dictating or forcing anyone to only be here if you are only seeking strictly sex. Being an obvious blog user yourself, have fun with that one when you run across the hundreds of blogs from people who are posting about their latest baked cake or what movie they stayed in to watch last night or who they think which sports team will win in tomorrow's big game. Too funny! You're lost! "The issue is that these men are irrelevantly contacting me (and plenty of other women) on this site for sex , .... Yes,DUH!! Those men are taking a chance, or completely ignoring what your profile says, because this is sex site, and regardless of what you say on your profile, you are still fair game. .....When you're on this site. ..... If you go to "Friendfinder", then far less likely , if at all, any man would proposition you for sex." No idea what you mean by "DUH!!". The "DUH" is not me, the "DUH" is from the losers who refuse to read, comprehend and remain ignorant. The info is public and very clearly written. Read it. Simple! If not, they are the "DUH", not me. Get your facts right and stop table-turning. By reading it, it clearly tells a reader who is here seeking sex that no chance in that is realistic. You're the DUH if you can't understand that much! You're impossible to get through to on a logical level. You are precisely the reason of what is wrong on this site and why it doesn't work for like 99% of it's members. Everyone assumes things, goes around cluelessly and blindly, has this idiotic mentality that this site is for ONLY one sole reason and that's absolutely it.....but then all wonder why they have no success here or whatever. I cannot begin to tell you how many rants I read on blogs and on profiles from men who all ask the same questions like: "Why won't women talk on here?" or "Are there any real women on this site?" or "Why is it so hard to meet women?". There is no mystery why this exists when you look at the fact that 99% or more of the people who exist here... 1 .) Don't bother to read the corporate page upon joining. 2 .) Don't bother reading profiles of women PRIOR to contacting them. 3 .) Blindly contacts women with irrelevant purpose and intent. 4 .) Assumes this site is for one thing only and that 700+ million of it's members only are here for sex (laughable!). 5 .) Ignores, retorts, retaliates, blocks and argues with it's female members every time there is some sort of mismatch, disagreement or are set straight about FACTS. So there you have it. You can debate all you'd like about this day after day until you're blue in the face, but at the end of the day on this site, guess what? Blogs on this site still exist about people baking cookies. web cam rooms still exist. chat rooms still exist. photo contests still exist, groups still exist, erotic stories still exist, member uploaded pics/videos on profiles still exist, blinging still exists, movies/magazine section still exists, sex academy section still exists, the "What's Hot" section still exists, etc... This is ALL ADULT-ORIENTED SOCIAL MEDIA!!! I repeat, This is ALL ADULT-ORIENTED (and optional) SOCIAL MEDIA!!! I'm on the right site. You're not! If you claim this site is only a sex site for hookups, then I beg to ask the question why you're engaged on this very blog you're in now? Did you respond to a guy's blog to "hookup" and find sex here (keeping in mind, that your profile claims you're straight, this blog is irrelevant to anything pertaining to bringing people together for sexual hookups and that I'm the only female on here who has chimed in and who is NOT here seeking sex). Again, too funny! Your hypocrisy is branded directly into your existence here and you fail to even see the irony of the idiotic claims you make of what this site is. "Don't walk through a thorn field looking for butterflies, and complain about the thorns. .... Think about it. Doesn't matter what your profile says. If a man wants to take a chance, or even has backbone to take a chance, HE WILL." Which loops us back around at the third time of me explaining this to you....we're dealing with a society of ignorant and lazy people. Simple as that. The vast majority of members who do the contacting are premium paying Gold or VIP members who do have the ability to read profiles but choose not to. That's their major flaw! If that's what they choose, then they also choose to be called out for it when their idiocy overrides their opportunity they've had to read, comprehend and respect. We all have profiles and there's a reason why we have them. No excuse for ignorance or laziness. Period.
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we're dealing with a society of ignorant and lazy people. ..... Coming here and bitching about it , is not going to change anything. You are on a sex site. Stay or leave. The vast majority of members who do the contacting are premium paying Gold or VIP members who do have the ability to read profiles but choose not to. .... That's right. They "Choose" not to, or they did, and they are ignoring what you said, for the sake of taking a chance. If that's what they choose, then they also choose to be called out for it .... Sure, you could be a bitch, or you could choose to reconsider. We all have profiles and there's a reason why we have them. ..... Yes, and there is a reason why some choose to take a chance. No excuse for ignorance or laziness. ..... You think it's ignorance or laziness.....doesn't matter.....they still choose to take a chance. People are not going to change. So maybe you should just go away.
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2/16/2020 8:55 am |
Heathen_G, "Coming here and bitching about it..." You're an idiot! I'm not coming here to bitch about that fact. Nevertheless, I have every right to do so anyway, even if I wanted to, because a blog is a place to SOCIALIZE about anything at all which is on our minds. Hey shithead, for the 50th time, this blog that you're on proves that this is NOT ONLY JUST a sex site. Such an idiot to continually keep spreading the fabrication that it is. YOU are a big part of the problem on site. It's the men like you who keep chanting these lines over and over again (at a place that clearly describes otherwise) until all of you losers begin to actually believe what you're chanting is true and absolute. It's NOT and it ISN'T ONLY a sex site. Period! Grow a brain for once. This blog is absolute proof of that, as is the corporate page description, as is Wikipedia's description, as is everywhere you look around this site and it's dozen or more options that allow for various forms of SOCIAL MEDIA. "... , is not going to change anything." You're right, bitching about something does nothing. Which is why I (and the community of others) actually take action against those who mistreat others, who act like idiots, who ignore, who are rude, and everything else regarding someone's kindness being abused. This is why people expose others for their ill behavior, which isn't just sitting around and doing nothing about the problems. Action is effective and DOES create change. "You are on a sex site. Stay or leave." So you're telling me that this very specific blog that you and I are writing on is designed specifically for you and I to find sex and nothing but sex?? You already know I disagree with that comment and chiming in to someone's blog isn't telling me I'm here seeking sex. So, how many sex partners or offers have you gotten so far on this very specific blog you're on, entitled "Who else?", which was composed by another man here and which shows I'm the only female to date which has chimed in to this very blog? Be honest now, how many offers or sexual partners have you come here on this blog to find yet????????? I'll stay on site. Why? Because I enjoy all aspects of being able to let go and be an adult and to engage in the social media things that this site offers to me and to millions of others here via blogs, cams, erotic stories, contests, etc... Until you understand that much, it seems to me that you are the one who is clueless of the site and why millions all congregate here (hint: it's not solely for sexually in-person meet purposes). "That's right. They "Choose" not to, or they did, and they are ignoring what you said, for the sake of taking a chance." So what part of that choice that they make to not read and to ignore don't you understand in that equation to translate to a woman as being rude? Sure, they have a choice to be rude and ignorant, but by making that choice, don't expect that to be a favorable measure to your odds or to the society in general when losers like this are shaping the society to be this way. You still don't get it! Women take their time to post information on profiles. There's a reason for that! So when people don't read when they have the ability to, then ignore, then blindly contact with irrelevancy, guess what? A woman is going to say "read my profile" OR not bother opening someone's message OR ignoring/blocking that member OR closing her account and leaving the site for good due to all of the idiots who CHOOSE this idiotic approach. Why do you think profiles exist? If we are telling you who we seek OR what we seek.....and you do NOT fit that description from what we've written, then there is zero chance you have from the start. Listen to what I'm telling you and comprehend! This isn't hard shit to understand!! "Sure, you could be a bitch, or you could choose to reconsider." First, I'm in no way a bitch unless those who continually push my buttons choose to see that side of me. For those who know me and who respect me on here will all tell you a drastically different personality. If you think I'm coming off as a bitch, then perhaps you haven't yet bothered to reconsider the fact that you aren't listening to me or are comprehending any of the factual sources I've been showing you for the past week. There is nothing for me to reconsider. I understand exactly what this site is and I come here for the specific reasons under those outlined terms and options of what this offers to it's members here. You act like I'm showing up at a fast food chain and looking to refuel my car or something. NO! I'm showing up at a gas station for fuel because that's what it offers! The site's corporate page says this (read carefully): "Today, FriendFinder’s award-winning portfolio of services synergistically combines the technical and brand assets of online personals, social-networking, live video chat, recorded video, online chat rooms, webcams, instant messaging, photo and video sharing, and premium content. With over 700,000,000 (not a typo; that’s 700 MILLION!) people engaged with at least one of our websites, and a track record of over twenty years of positive customer experiences, we continue our mission of pioneering new development of innovative, social media technology connecting people every day all over the world." Let's address the key words and comments here within this mission statement... "TODAY" - Notice how it starts off by saying "today"? This means that it's telling all of us members here that what they are describing is current and up to date for what this site is, as we speak. "COMBINES" - Yes, it describes this site to be a combination of different things for the different types of members who all come here seeking different things. Those combined sources and reasons are described as "personals, social-networking, live video chat, recorded video, online chat rooms, webcams, instant messaging, photo and video sharing, and premium content.". Did you read that right? Personals (meaning in person intent of sex, friendships, love, romance, etc...). Social-networking (meaning chat/chat rooms, cams, videos, contests, blogs, erotic stories, etc...). What part of any of this do you STILL not understand???????? "Yes, and there is a reason why some choose to take a chance." You're caught up on this "chance" thing. And it's because of the losers who don't read and still contact us with irrelevant "chance" that this site has gone to complete hell. It's only because of these shitty choices are the men actually LOSING their favorable odds and trashing this site and society because of that fact. Stop preaching to me this "chance" bullshit. I'm giving you hard facts here. I have been on this site for about 20 years in total. I have been here during the days when people used only PC's in order to communicate and during a time when almost everyone read profiles and contacted others with RELEVANT intent and purpose. These were the golden years when opportunities existed because of these measures and where gender ratio was more or less balanced and was a time when people were meeting a ton of other people because of how smoothly things would go when we had cooperation around here between members. You're forgetting history OR that you don't even understand it because you haven't been here that long to see how much things went to hell. Do you read women's profiles? I could probably browse women's profiles for ten minutes and pull up a handful off the bat which say "not here looking" or "tired of the nonsense" and things like this. You're a blogger. Read the blogs of women who are saying the same kinds of things! Pay attention to these signs! I'm not making this shit up. You're just not listening at all. "You think it's ignorance or laziness.....doesn't matter.....they still choose to take a chance. People are not going to change. So maybe you should just go away." No, I don't think it's laziness or ignorance, I KNOW it's laziness and ignorance! How so? Because you're not a woman here and you aren't seeing what we're dealing with around here on our side of the screen. For pure (realistic) example here: in any given day, 50 men could contact me throughout the course of that day. Out of those 50, perhaps maybe one or two would actually read a profile or write to me for anything even close to my purpose and intent here. For the others, when I politely ask the to "please read my profile over" or ask "what's relevant per your contact?"...the vast majority will either infinitely ignore me, sometimes block me or will tell me "sorry, I didn't read your profile". If you honestly need proof, I will gladly supply you with dozens of emails I have, dozens of exposures and dozens of screen shot conversations as proof of this, if need be to get my point across. You don't understand this because it's you who is not seeing this or dealing with this from your vantage point as a male here. So no, it's not me that needs to go away, it's the losers who fucking pay monthly membership dues for no damn reason other than using it as their ability to harass and chase off women with nonsense and irrelevancy, rather than to take a moment and read, respect a woman, try to find basic compatibility and purpose up front and to then contact us if there are RELEVANT measures to do so. "Doesn't matter"??????? What!!! It completely matters and it's all that matters!!!! The entire basis of one's failure or success rate on this site is primarily based on the fact of two people coming together for relevant reason, for relevant purpose and to achieve some relevant outcome between two or more people here. For me, that reason is to socialize. For others, that reason is for a hookup. For others yet, that reason is for swinging. And still for others, that reason is to web cam. We all have reasons we're on here and all are drastically for different purpose and intent. Reading a profile definitely does matter to understand up front if the person you think you may be interested in has a reasonable level of intent, purpose or compatibility with you. You're not going to find a success rate of people ignoring profiles, then blindly contacting and annoying others with sex meet talk when a person is here for casual chat ONLY, nor will someone with a specific search of a certain race, age or physical attributes be interested in someone else who isn't that. You'll never find someone advertising that they are not interested in men over 45 years of age if that person blindly contacting or overriding her profile details is 65 years old. Get a clue! If you don't understand any of this, it's you who needs a reality check, an education or who needs to simply go away, not me. I'm actually the one who is here for my specific reasons, am here for what the site entails I can be here for and who has done her homework and who has composed her profile to the public to read. You haven't! You contradict yourself and your actions here. You claim on one hand that this is a "sex site/hookup site"....yet on the other hand, you end up on some random guy's blog. Following your very logic that this is only a "sex site", then that should mean that this site should be used FOR sex and NOTHING else except the search for sex. Sooooooo, how can you then explain your purpose on this blog you're on? How can you then explain the site's description? How can you then explain the many various outlets of social media tabs and functions you find scattered all over this site as far as cams, blogs, chat rooms, contests, erotic stories, etc...???? You can't answer that truthfully because by doing so, you know you're contradicting yourself. Therefore, you either dodge all of these comments I leave, continue pointing fingers at me and continue on the same loop of idiocy, rather than sticking to hard facts and logic. Typical! "people are not going to change" Oh no? False! As I've said, I've been here for 20+ years or so now and have seen a DRASTIC shift in how people used to be and what people have become today. Travel back in time to the late 1990's on this site. There were probably one woman for every three men on this site back then and all were usually real. Today, I can only guess that the gender ratio is maybe one REAL woman out of dozens, if not hundreds of men here. Why is that, we must ask ourselves? It's completely due to behavioral issues, ignorance, laziness, men not dedicating any time in wanting to get to know a women for who she is as a person, why she's here or for what she seeks. Instead, it's easier for the losers here to simply cast blind bait out to the masses of the so-called "women"on here, chase us all off, turn us off, piss us off and somehow magically expect a level of success or interest taken by us who exist here. That's in no way a realistic approach, which directly proves the reality of why next to no real women exist on this site, why almost none of us bother to open/respond to incoming messages or chat and why nearly no women on site has any real and enthusiastic desire at all to meet any of these losers. So yeah, people and society definitely always DO and DID change! That's always a given since the beginning of humanity. Difference being, we're now heading backwards with negativity, rather than forward in positivity. There are many reasons for that, which is an entirely different topic of it's own, worthy of it's own blog. In short, no wonder the site doesn't work for anyone. You chose to make it that way. Smh.
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Attn: Rochblue This is a sex site. Men get on this site to find sex...with whatever, and for what ever strange reason , some of them seem to be contacting you for sex. Stop whining about this. Stop bitching about this... Stay or leave.... but again, you are on a sex site.
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