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Fraud Crusade
 
I want to take a look at the methods used by these dating sites to deceive men inparticular to join and upgrade. And take a look at the women who wink, flirt and hotlist then ignore. I'll be looking for feedback from both men and women to see if we can get an understanding as to why it is done the way that it is.
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Example of some sketchy dialogue
Posted:May 6, 2012 9:51 pm
Last Updated:May 16, 2024 11:59 am
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Sorry everyone(all of my loyal 4 or 5 fans)I have been away for a while. It has proven difficult to work, sleep, play and maintain the blog. It must be getting close to summer, the activity has picked up and I am meeting many more beautiful women. I have several memorable stories to tell about some of these experiences. I'll save them for another post.

Right now I want to share the typical email exchange I have with the early 20 something female. These women target older men, I guess believing that they are desperate and will do just about anything to get laid. But you are not going to get laid, what's the saying? If it sounds too good to be true it probably is!

But this is also a "shame on you" to the dating sites out there. Because these women are working for you, trying to steal members from other sites. Just another part of the dark under belly of the industry.

You have to be aware in order to protect yourself from the predators.

So here we go, this email exchange took place earlier today and I thought it would make a perfect post. Let me know what you think.

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HER: HELLO HUN kate /.. IM 24 AND SINGLE.. IM HERE NOW ALONG (South 3rd St # A, Renton, WA ).. IM LOOKING FOR A LOCAL FUCK BUDDY.. ARE YOU DOWN??

ME: Kate, this isn't the typical message that I receive, something looks fishy about it, like its fake. I'm always down to fuck, but we're missing a step, what happened to meeting first?

HER: IM NEW HERE SO IM NOT FAMILIAR TO THOSE PLACES HERE.. SO ITS UP TO YOU IF WHERE AND WHEN WE MEET OK.. DONT WORRY I HAVE A GPS AND CAR.. ILL BE THERE.. OK

ME: New here huh. OK sweetie, meet me at Shari's - 1820 Maple Valley Hwy, Renton. What time is good for you?

HER: i am fucking serious in meeting you honey..i am not here wasting my time for games and BS!please dont play with me..are you serious?i really wanna get laid! im nervous

ME: Chill, I am serious, meet me at Shari's. I have to see you and talk to you before I decide if I want to fuck you. Now can you be there by 7:45?

HER: i never had sex for so long.. so i am really excited meeting you yet very nervous!i had a bad experience meeting an online guy before.i wanna make sure that you are a legit first before we meet.not trying to be so mean but i have my rule now honey hope you understand honey..

ME: I am OK with that, I have had some bad experiences too. I'm legit, we will be meeting in a public place. We will sit in a booth across from each other. We can even get something to eat while we talk. Now can you be there by 7:45 or 8:00?

HER: i set up a page where you can see see all my personal infos and my family background so youll know im real.can you send me a message there saying"I LOVE YOU ANGEL" in that way i know that you are a legit? as simple as that honey.can you do it for me honey?

ME: Kate, is this what your contact was all about? To get me to visit another web page and create another profile and pay another membership fee? You were nervous about me? I'm the one that should be nervous! I belong to 6 sites right now, I'm not interested in adding to that number. You got my email off of either untrue or amateur match. You already know that I am legit, lets cut through the bullshit.

HER: now can i send you now my link to my page ????

ME: Kate, I don't want your link, I don't need your link! Either we are going to meet or we're not going to meet and I am OK with either of those choices. Keep your link!

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This is actual dialogue, copied and pasted from my email. I did not get another response from Kate after telling her to keep her link.

I am not going to comment on each individual remark made above like I usually do. I want to hear from the blogosphere. Share your comments and maybe some of your experiences.

I have another nice email exchange that I mentioned in an earlier post that I would like to share with you all, but that's another post. See you next time.
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No comments, only 2 views so far
Posted:Apr 29, 2012 1:29 am
Last Updated:Nov 21, 2015 1:08 pm
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OK, so my blog isn't catching anyone's eye. I didn't think it would catch on right away, oh well.

Without additional input from others to add to the premise I'm not sure how much more I should write about it just yet.

So in the meantime I will determine my next move and maybe change the direction of my blog. Even though this is something that should be talked about more.

Another topic that I was planning on pursuing is the ladies who view your profile, send you a wink and maybe even put you on their hotlist, but never contact you in any other way. It's just really curious to me.

I have also been sent email, and I have responded to each and every email I receive. But there are ladies that will send you an email, you respond, and then you never hear from them again. I am having a hard time wrapping my head around that, doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Maybe someone can provide an explanation. If they didn't want to talk to you why did they contact you in the first place?

There are also those ladies that send emails and immediately you know somethings wrong. A young lady much younger than yourself telling you exactly what you want to hear, matching your profile search information to a tee. She has no picture on her profile and very scant information. Wanting a personal email address even though they are either silver or gold and can communicate freely on the site (raised eyebrow)!

Well, if you knew me you would understand that my curiosity always gets the better of me. So there I go giving my personal email address to this 25 year old woman who just so happens to live more than 2,000 miles away, I don't know anything about her, she has provided me (and anyone else who views her profile) no information at all, just to see what she's up to. When I received her first message with pictures included, it was this incredibly beautiful young woman that WOULD be a SPECIAL treat to hook up with. She wasn't asking for much, just wanted someone to talk to. After a few back and forth emails it turned into a steamy conversation about what I would do to her and what she would do to me, it was frickin hot let me tell you. I have kept all of the messages for future reading material on a lazy day! Well, it ended with an apparent orgasm from her end and I assumed that would be the last time I would hear from her and that was OK. Well, the next day she sent me a message with a link that sent me to a web cam page. She was suggesting that we could replay the previous nights events except this time it would be on cam for me to enjoy visually. Now that was something that really piqued my interest, so I go to the page and create my account and all of a sudden they want my credit card information. Damn, for a second I thought that maybe I was born yesterday. I didn't give them my credit card info, and I told the 25 year old that I wasn't going to do it. Now don't get me wrong, I was devastated that I was not going to see this beautiful creature on cam, but she responded angrily to me, she could not believe that I was passing up this opportunity. She insisted that my credit card would not be charged, just used to verify my age blah blah blah. When I told her I couldn't do it, that was where it officially ended. I am confident that I will not hear from her again. What is it the French say at this point??

Now I have done this several times, giving my personal email to an obviously questionable contact. All of the others immediately started pelting me with links to other dating sites and so forth. Yeah I know I couldn't get a repeat of that incredible cybersex I experienced above. I never really got into cybersex, but I will remember that experience for a long time.

Anyone else have any similar experiences. Share them with us (me and the other 2 people who have viewed my blog!). Maybe can I get to 4 or 5 views next time, one can only dream.
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Am I bursting a bubble or do men deserve what they get?
Posted:Apr 27, 2012 8:54 pm
Last Updated:Jul 25, 2013 8:47 pm
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I have more on the dating site ads topic. It's been awhile since I ventured out looking for internet porn, so I did so today mainly to look at the dating site ads. Now I didn't spend but 15 minutes doing this and came up with several ads I am sure you will enjoy!

This ad came up several times, it doesn't offer anything for free but it is still deceptive and misleading. Here it is...

"Older women looking for sex sex sex
Find a cougar in your area and FUCK her tonight!"


How many real cougars are hooking up with young men on day one of a new membership? Not many if any. I guess if it has happened once it can happen again and again, come on let's all get into the fun.

OK, here's a good one, your looking for porn so you must be getting ready to masturbate....

"Enough of jerking off?
Find a fuckbuddy near you & fuck her in your house tonight!"


Again, your getting fucked TONIGHT! Not only are you getting fucked tonight but this woman you met your first day on the site is going to go to a complete strangers house to do it. Not very likely I would think. The only redeeming quality of this ad is that it does not offer it for free like so many others.

Here is an example of one that was mentioned in my first post. It uses just about every deceptive tactic that I have seen. Check this out...

"Fuck local sluts tonight! Men join free! We have simply too many female members. Browse local profiles."

First the women you are going to find on the site are SLUTS! What do the ladies think of that? And again you're getting fucked TONIGHT! Has that happened before? If so share your experience. Men get to join for FREE because there a too many women on the site. BS, you create a free profile and the minute you try to do anything you are directed to upgrade. I'm sorry folks but that is deceptive no matter how you slice it.

Are we having fun yet? This one almost had me on the floor I was laughing so hard....

"Fuck 2 bitches a day! We need more men to fuck our female members! Fuck a local bitch tonight!!! Men join free. No credit card required."

Really? 2 a day and the women on this site are going to be referred to as BITCHES! Hmmm, that sounds appealing! They need more men? A 150 to 1 ratio is not skewed enough? And again you are going to fuck this bitch TONIGHT! You also get to do it for FREE, hell no credit card is required! At least up until the point you try to communicate with anyone. Is there anyone out there in the blogosphere as offended by this as I am?

I'm not done yet, there's more. This one shares statistics that I wasn't aware of, until now

"Married Women who just want to be fucked!
It's a fact, more than 78% of women are cheaters. Click here and fuck discreet married women today. Join now."


OK, 78% of women are cheaters, really! Damn that is so disheartening to know. But hey, if I click here I'll get to fuck one of them TODAY! I hate to admit it but I clicked on this one once. I am in the market for an NSA arrangement. It can't get any more NSA than if your partner is already in a strings attached arrangement. The site is, "DiscreetMarried.com" kind of. When I got there it was actually a copy of Gay Hookup Zone. Same members, same profiles, except now they are being marketed differently. Something smells fishy in Denmark and it's not that unwashed pussy you hooked up with last week.

The same site has another ad that is prominent in internet ad blocks....

"Discreet sex with housewives.
Millions of lonely housewives looking for discreet sex. Find one near you and start a secret romance today. Free trial."


I don't know if any of you have had any experience with Gay Hookup Zone (wait, this is Gay Hookup Zone, or is this DiscreetMarried, I give up) but I was a member with one of my ex-girlfriends, a couple looking for an FMF threesome. We met several women and girls, none of them were housewives. And the women I have met as a single man are not married/housewives either! I know there are some out there but it is a small percentage of the profiles not MILLIONS. Either way there are men that have joined the community believing that the lions share of women they are going to meet are either housewives or married working women. Whatever gets them to the site and to that dreaded upgrade page is what the owners are prepared to do. Honesty and Integrity be damned.

I only have one more for this post....

"Find a slut. Email her. Fuck her tonight!"

The ad fails to tell you that it is going to cost you at minimum $30 to email her. And I will assure you that you are not going to be fucking her TONIGHT! There are games to be played, bots to be sifted through and even real women who are not serious about hooking up to sift through. All of that takes time and patience. And it is far from free.

I am confident that my facts on this topic are numerous and cannot be disputed! But I am open to all comments and shared experience on the topic. It's OK, I have broad shoulders, I can take it, hit me with what you got!
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Let's start with the advertising
Posted:Apr 27, 2012 10:23 am
Last Updated:Sep 9, 2015 1:26 am
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At first I was as gullible as the next guy, easily fooled and mislead. But now I have become jaded and skeptical. It was the natural progression after being treated like a fool so many times. And it continues, ads for these dating sites are plentiful and can be found in many places. I have been sent unsolicited emails, I have seen the ads while viewing internet porn. I have even been exposed to them while searching for adult chat rooms. The main thing that they all have in common is their tag line, "Join for free and get laid tonight". They know that the statement is not true yet they plaster it in as many internet ad blocks as they can. I have even seen ads that say, "because of the large number of female members, we are offering men free memberships". To me that implies that they need men (which is a lie, men outnumber women on these sites 150 to 1 or more) and are willing to give them a membership with all of the tools and capabilities necessary to communicate with the women. Well, we all know that's not true. If they actually told you the truth the number of men, and women for that matter who will actually join will diminish to almost nothing. It would go something like this, "Hot women looking for men to have sex with for only $159.99 for a one year membership". Do you think they'll come flocking to the site then. Now understand I am explaining this from a man's perspective, I really don't know what the women are being charged, if anything. I would suspect that they actually get to join for free, the site would be useless without them. Please women, share with us the offers you receive from the site, and everyone feel free to share your experiences. If anyone feels that I am way off base here, I want to hear that too.
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